X.org Board of Directors Meeting summary of Wednesday 2009-06-09. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Official log: https://members.x.org/minutes/xorg-board-2009-06-09.txt Location is #xf-bod@irc.oftc.net, timeframe of meeting unknown. Attending board members: Adam Jackson, Alan Coopersmith, Eric Anholt, Bart Massey, Donnie Berkholz. Absent board members: Daniel Stone, Carl Worth, Matthieu Herrb. Attending non-board members: Keith Packard. Bart opens the meeting with a discussion about infrastructure, and most people immediately start talking about wiki spamming that is currently happening. Bart then steers towards having Joe Rayhawk join the sysadmin team: "Keithp wasn't so enthusiastic about this a while back, but I've had a year or two of experience with Rayhawk now and he's quite good." "Joe is a former PSU student who is close friends with one of my best students and who has been working for me for about 1.5 years as an hourly sys/netadmin for some of my boxes." Alan asks whether these aren't all freedesktop.org machines, as opposed to X.org machines. Keith answers that they are all freedesktop machines, and that "X.org should just 'help out'". Donnie states that he'd prefer that "the existing admins decide on who to add", to which Adam contributes "keith, anholt, cworth, and myself all have root on fd.o as it is" "that's pretty close to a majority vote of the existing site admins". Bart replies "Obviously the existing admins should have a big say in what we do", but "I'm a little concerned about things like lagtime for creating accounts and assigning commit access as well, since it can affect who is willing to help with X". The topic mostly shifts towards preventing wiki spam again, to which Bart adds "We also have ongoing issues with the PSU security monitor going off". Adam then asks "do those alerts get sent to any of the existing admins?", as they are not sent to him at all, to which Bart answers "They are getting sent to me, and thence to sitewranglers@fd.o", and Adam volunteers to have them sent to him. Bart mentions that "the biggest problems are with the smaller projects affiliated with fd.o / X.Org. Those folks sometimes don't mind their store, and we don't mind it for them." Keith proposes "to require new projects to have a dedicated wiki maintainer to de-spam stuff", as "Foisting the per-project issues onto each project would reduce global sysadmin load". Alan brings up Bart his earlier topic again: "will enough trusted people volunteer to cover the needed admin work or should we be thinking about spending X.Org funds to pay for some?", to which Bart replies "Excellent question. I think we could find enough trusted volunteers, but if not I'd be willing to have us pay." Keith would like "to see some kind of mechanism that would let each project add users to the system without requiring global permissions", X.org "could fund a student or other SoC-like project for" that. Bart adds "Yes, we can fund it if we need to. I think I can get you competent help for free if we want to go there." Donnie wonders "whether it's generally even known that there is a need for help". Keith answers with "it's not something you want to go advertising for -- you'll get lots of well-intentioned, but clueless volunteers offering to help out", to which Donnie replies "gentoo's infra team does pretty well" Keith tells Bart that "technical solutions may be able to help out here; I'm in favor of at least trying that approach", to which Bart replies "we need resources to do even that...", "Unless you're volunteering? :-)" Bart concludes this discussion with "Can I get a yes or no from each of you to the question "the Board should try to help beef up our admin infrastructure?" and later adds "(This isn't a binding motion, just a poll.)", but the only reply comes from Donnie, who states "not sure about paid admins". Bart then moves to Endless Vacation of Code, and an application sent in by Kristof Ralovich. . Bart concludes with "OK, the motion is carried. I'm going to suggest that unlike GSoC we actually pay each half in advance; we had some bad experience last time with students who worked all Summer and had trouble getting their checks. :-)". What is decided seems positive for Kristof his application, but details are unknown. Bart brings up the elections; "we still don't have an Elections Committee chair? Anyone volunteer?". Donnie wonders whether it will clash with his PhD work, but nobody else speaks up and Bart concludes the meeting. One motion was passed, but the contents of this motion is not known.