21:31karolherbst: Lyude: I get the feeling we had a bug there but I don't remember the details... does that ring a bell somewhat? https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/nouveau/-/issues/115
21:33Lyude: karolherbst: it doesn't but I don't know that htis issue is related or not
21:34Lyude: looks like it might not be since I don't think we get any empty subc errors
21:34karolherbst: yeah.. no idea either
21:45karolherbst: Lyude: I bet it's modifiers related
21:45karolherbst: but what does EMPTY_SUBC mean anyway
21:45karolherbst: maybe skeggsb_ knows :D
21:45karolherbst: Lyude: ohh btw.. I own a 4K@120 screen now....
21:46karolherbst: HDMI 2.1 and shit
21:46Lyude: they're already selling hdmi 2.1?
21:46imirkin: too bad you can only drive it @30hz :p
21:46Lyude: that's. shitty
21:46karolherbst: imirkin: why? :D
21:46imirkin: oh, i jsut assumed there wer eproblems
21:46imirkin: seems like a reasonable guess.
21:46karolherbst: didn't try it
21:46karolherbst: it's an android TV, so...
21:46HdkR: Need HDMI 2.1 for all those 8k panels people are pushing :)
21:47imirkin: i guess other people had problems with 144hz, not 120hz
21:47karolherbst: just wanted something new and shiny if I buy a TV...
21:47Lyude: just use displayport
21:47HdkR: You need 2x DP 1.4 for 8k60 though
21:47karolherbst: Lyude: well.. it's a TV
21:47karolherbst: they somehow only come with HDMI
21:47Lyude: karolherbst: …right
21:47imirkin: Lyude: TV's don't have DP
21:47Lyude: imirkin: i forgot it was a tvg
21:47karolherbst: HdkR: yeah... I mean 8k TV _was_ an option but they are just too big and expensive
21:48imirkin: karolherbst: plus can't get 120hz yet? :)
21:48karolherbst: imirkin: why not?
21:48HdkR: They really are. Nutty televisions
21:48karolherbst: HDMI 2.1 can do 8K@120
21:48imirkin: seems like a lot
21:48karolherbst: with DSC
21:48imirkin: that's more pixels than i can count.
21:48karolherbst: it's also an HDR screen I have :D so 10 bit 4K@120
21:48Lyude: which we still don't know if we can implement in linux… :\
21:48karolherbst: I am sure a lot of drivers will break
21:49karolherbst: Lyude: DSC?
21:49Lyude: karolherbst: for HDMI 2.1, along with a bunch of other 2.1 stuff, yes.
21:49karolherbst: why not?
21:49imirkin: Lyude: it's not just a bunch of bits to flip somewhere?
21:49karolherbst: that screen of course comes with ALLM and VRR and everything :D
21:49Lyude: imirkin: for some hardware, but the main problem is that HDMI 2.1 makes some changes to confidentiality agreements that have things up in the air right now
21:49karolherbst: and it wasn't even _that_ expensive
21:50Lyude: as some of the hdmi 2.1 features do need software implementation in some cases
21:50karolherbst: Lyude: ufffff
21:50Lyude: yeah the board and myself have been trying to get them to respond to this
21:50Lyude: well i guess i am the board
21:50Lyude: or part of the board you know what i mean
21:50karolherbst: (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
21:50karolherbst: not again
21:51Lyude: oh neat, there's an update on this actually
21:51Lyude: and apparently it's going to be bad
21:51karolherbst: I mean.. the situation with GL was already annoying
21:51Lyude: good thing i am very good at being loud
21:51karolherbst: but I bet with HDMI it will be just shit
21:51karolherbst: Lyude: I probably would get valve on board even though them not beeing to big, but I guess in 15 years even they care about 8K@120 gaming on Linux ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
21:52HdkR: HDMI trying to ruin everything. Bleh
21:53karolherbst: but 8K@120 is really insane
21:53karolherbst: where do they get the 100 Gbit/s anyway...
21:53Lyude: yep. they said no
21:53karolherbst: 130 for HDR
21:53Lyude: it's ruckus time
21:54karolherbst: Lyude: yeah.... I didn't expect anything else
21:54karolherbst: I see the list and nobody of those really cares about linux?
21:54karolherbst: google maybe
21:55karolherbst: so TVs are running android and everything
21:55karolherbst: but I guess the HDMI stuff is unrelated to the actual OS running or so
21:55karolherbst: really don't know the details there
21:57imirkin: well, they're going to have a semi-proprietary driver on the SoC
21:57karolherbst: no I mean...
21:57imirkin: also it's probably not driving the display via hdmi
21:57karolherbst: they probably don't use HDMI
21:57imirkin: but rather eDP or something like that
21:57imirkin: or DSI. dunno what's practical there.
21:57karolherbst: I actually don't know how much the OS is involved in like.. external devices
21:58karolherbst: but there are also those image/audio settings
21:59karolherbst: I could try to get it working with nouveau... 4k@120 I mean
21:59karolherbst: 4:2:0 color format
21:59karolherbst: that's all going so much fun I guess
21:59karolherbst: *going to be
22:00imirkin: doing 4:2:0 is on my "list"
22:00imirkin: although i haven't done antyhing on my list in ages
22:04HdkR: Lyude: Is HDMI blocking DSC even in DP implementations? Is this why I don't have DSC in amdgpu? :(
22:04Lyude: HdkR: no? it's just hdmi
22:04karolherbst: maybe now that I know so much about channel recovery.. maybe I should work on recovery on the kernel side if the DRM channels die ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
22:05HdkR: Alright good. So I don't need to blame HDMI for my problems today :D
22:13karolherbst: imirkin: btw.. HDMI 2.1 doesn't stop at 8k@120 :D
22:13karolherbst: seems like 10k@120 is the max
22:18imirkin: or 1k@1khz