04:00 imirkin: skeggsb: i'm seeing a *ton* of cpu time in drmmode_event_handler with xf86-video-nouveau
04:01 imirkin: with a rotated configuration
04:01 imirkin: i wonder if that plays into it somehow
12:51 karolherbst: HdkR: if this continues, I will have to pay more than you did for the initial hardware :D
12:51 karolherbst: guess what I need as well
15:12 karolherbst: HdkR: bought all the other stuff I needed (power cables, ethernet cables, PoE splitter, router) :) and it should arrive next week, so maybe next weekend I have something working
15:13 karolherbst: I need the router to separate my own network and stuff
21:19 HdkR: karolherbst: haha nice. initial setup is always the most costly bit
21:22 imirkin: good thing electricity's free...
21:22 HdkR: oof
21:22 HdkR: Don't remind me, my electricity bill each month is terrible
21:29 karolherbst: imirkin: yeah.. but that's not really a concern of mine right now. Anyway, I wanted to install power meters as well to know how much electricity the entire CI setup costs and then I would feel comfortable if others would help out paying for it as well.
21:29 karolherbst: but.. right now that wouldnt costs much anyway
21:30 karolherbst: power meter with ethernet/wifi to be able to read it out and display it on a website :D
21:31 hashteroidfields: hi. Just to make sure: nouveau doesn't support Tegra? https://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/FAQ/#index20h3
21:31 hashteroidfields: Because I read elsewhere that it would
21:31 karolherbst: it does
21:31 karolherbst: ohh
21:31 karolherbst: it's the old tegra
21:31 karolherbst: hashteroidfields: Tegra 4 and older isn't supported
21:31 karolherbst: Tegra K1 and newer are essentially like the desktop GPUs
21:32 hashteroidfields: karolherbst: Ok, thank you
21:32 imirkin: we should just delete like 90% of those pages
21:32 karolherbst: yeah.. most of them don't really add value and just cause confusion
21:33 karolherbst: we can summarize hardware support in quite a few words: every Nvidia GeForce like GPU, hardware acceleration might not be supported on the newest 1 to 3 gens
21:34 karolherbst: maybe even GeForce and Quadro
21:35 imirkin: p.s. buy amd :)
21:36 karolherbst: imirkin: would you be fine if we just create a new wiki on the gitlab.fdo instance? Maybe I would then be even willing migrating everything which looks useful.. and it's probably easier for users to actually make changes. Although don't know how often that would happen. the current wiki system is quite annoying somehow
21:36 imirkin: i have zero opinion on that
21:37 karolherbst: okay
21:37 njsg: When I need to check hardware support in radeon or nouveau, I usually try to remember the name of the respective feature matrix in the wiki
21:37 imirkin: however if someone does want to take up such a project, step 1 would be to present a concrete plan
21:37 karolherbst: yeah
21:37 karolherbst: first I would just toy around a little and see how well that works out
21:37 imirkin: njsg: the feature matrix is total bs anyways
21:37 imirkin: the listed features don't map well to units of support
21:37 imirkin: karolherbst: sure, but that's just the playing around stage
21:38 imirkin: i did a round of cleanups back in ... 2014 or so
21:38 imirkin: it's cleaner than it used to be! :)
21:40 karolherbst: imirkin: ohh, the current wiki uses markdown as well?
21:40 njsg: imirkin: you mean feature support is not uniform under the given families?
21:40 karolherbst: or is it a different format?
21:40 imirkin: njsg: i mean the rows don't make any sense
21:40 njsg: it's ikiwiki, so I'll guess wiki-like markup
21:41 karolherbst: mhh, the syntax is indeed a bit different
21:41 karolherbst: njsg: https://cgit.freedesktop.org/wiki/nouveau/tree/CodeNames.mdwn?id=f1320bf66828dc67a8fb8d3df74d8ac11642f371
21:42 karolherbst: it feels like a mix of markdown, wiki and html...
21:45 karolherbst: imirkin: maybe the plan could be stuff like: we just announce that we want to migrate the wiki, and everything which users ask about, anybody feels free to add or thinks is important to take over, can be migrated/rewritten/written new and after a while everything else not migrated is lost forever :p (except, that we will have the git clone still)
21:45 karolherbst: I don't even know for what the wiki is currently used except staring at the feature matrices
21:47 imirkin: karolherbst: sure
21:48 hashteroidfields: karolherbst: Wikipedia linked there as the official page. Should it be the gitlab repo instead?
21:48 karolherbst: there is no gitlab repo for the wiki
21:48 karolherbst: gitlab just would it make it easier for random users to propose changes
21:48 karolherbst: so that's why I am wondering if moving to gitlab might make sense
21:49 iamzxyz: hello people
21:49 iamzxyz: does nouveau work with the rtx 2080 yet?
21:49 karolherbst: depends on what you need
21:50 iamzxyz: more specifically, geforce rtx 2080 windforce3
21:50 iamzxyz: uhh, what do you mean
21:50 hashteroidfields: karolherbts: Also, the current doesn't seem to point out where the source code is :)
21:50 karolherbst: imirkin: feature wise
21:50 karolherbst: ...
21:50 karolherbst: sry
21:50 karolherbst: iamzxyz:
21:50 hashteroidfields: at least not here: https://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/Development/
21:50 iamzxyz: uhhh
21:50 karolherbst: what features do you need
21:50 iamzxyz: well, I'd just like to boot into debian so I could install it
21:50 karolherbst: hashteroidfields: kernel and mesa and X stuff
21:50 iamzxyz: apparently the issues with ryzen 3000 have been solved
21:50 iamzxyz: for systemd
21:51 karolherbst: iamzxyz: mhhh... with a new enough kernel you should get basic support for displaying
21:51 iamzxyz: I'm failing to see that, I'm not really sure if it's the fact I'm running a 3700x, a x570 board, or a rtx 2080
21:51 iamzxyz: hmmm
21:51 hashteroidfields: karolherbst: Oh right, they are part of the upstream. cheers.
21:51 imirkin: hashteroidfields: https://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/ -- that has the stuff
21:51 hashteroidfields: imirkin: yeah
21:51 iamzxyz: dunno, cuz i tried booting like 8 different isos
21:51 iamzxyz: and was getting all types of graphical glitches
21:51 karolherbst: iamzxyz: what issues were you encountering?
21:51 imirkin: iamzxyz: should be all software rendering, so graphical glitches sound odd
21:51 iamzxyz: runit works afaik but i've only tried cli isos
21:51 iamzxyz: let me see
21:52 iamzxyz: i have an exampleimage
21:53 iamzxyz: shit like https://i.imgur.com/ImRw18q.jpg
21:53 imirkin: ah
21:53 imirkin: sounds like modesetting isn't quite perfect
21:53 imirkin: are you running a recent kernel? there were some issues early on i think
21:53 iamzxyz: well
21:54 iamzxyz: i've tried debian,fedora, and ubuntu 19.04 (i think 19.04), also latest arch all withint he last week
21:54 iamzxyz: so if they all run recent kernels
21:54 iamzxyz: yes
21:54 imirkin: arch should be latest, i think
21:54 imirkin: debian/etc are probably quite old
21:54 karolherbst: either 5.3 or 5.4
21:54 karolherbst: well 5.3
21:54 iamzxyz: imirkin: what about ubuntu 19.04
21:54 iamzxyz: i can try it out
21:54 imirkin: yeah, there were just some issues early on with ... i forget what
21:54 karolherbst: fedora should run 5.3 by now (if it's fedora 31)
21:54 hashteroidfields: iamzxyz: imirkin karolherbst: Are you in progress for migrating to fdo gitlab? Seems your repos are mirrored from gitlab to cgit.freedesktop.org
21:55 iamzxyz: i don't think i tried fedora actually
21:55 iamzxyz: i can
21:55 karolherbst: hashteroidfields: mesa is on gitlab
21:55 iamzxyz: if yall think it'd work
21:55 imirkin: hashteroidfields: a bunch of things got migrated, but the repository link works just fine
21:55 iamzxyz: i''m not too familiar
21:55 karolherbst: iamzxyz: will probably not change much
21:55 imirkin: and i very much prefer the cgit interface
21:55 karolherbst: iamzxyz: can you verify that booting with "nouveau.modeset=1" solves the issues?
21:55 karolherbst: just to rule out it's not something else funky going on
21:55 hashteroidfields: imirkin: ok. the links on the wiki mainpage point to cgit
21:55 iamzxyz: never tried that actually
21:55 njsg: cgit also tends to work nicer in the absence of javascript and webfonts, compared to gitlab, unless there's a hidden toggle I don't know about
21:56 iamzxyz: where would i place this
21:56 karolherbst: iamzxyz: grub
21:56 karolherbst: add it to the kernel command line
21:56 iamzxyz: alright cool, gotta turn off pc
21:56 karolherbst: well, if you plan to run the nvidia driver later on anyway, that's good enough to get your system installed and booted
21:56 iamzxyz: do you use like telegram or signal where i can ask you a question if i have to
21:56 iamzxyz: yeah i plan on using proprietary drivers
21:56 iamzxyz: I don't think nouveau has good enough support for 144jz
21:56 karolherbst: mhhh, IRC is probably the best way
21:57 iamzxyz: *144h
21:57 karolherbst: ohh
21:57 iamzxyz: aight one sec
21:57 karolherbst: is it a 144 Hz display?
21:57 iamzxyz: let me install a irc client on my phone
21:57 iamzxyz: yes, i use 144hz
21:57 karolherbst: yeah.. that might cause issues as that's totally untested
21:57 karolherbst: shouldn't
21:57 karolherbst: but who knows
21:57 karolherbst: iamzxyz: HDMI?
21:57 iamzxyz: ive used it with nouveau before without problems
21:57 iamzxyz: before i built this new pc
21:57 karolherbst: iamzxyz: I guess with an older GPU it worked?
21:57 iamzxyz: yea
21:57 iamzxyz: had a 1070
21:57 karolherbst: same display?
21:57 iamzxyz: yea
21:57 karolherbst: well, 2080 is turing, so it's new code and stuff
21:58 imirkin: iamzxyz: please pastebin dmesg as well
21:58 karolherbst: skeggsb: ^^ if you read this, maybe you know what's up
21:58 imirkin: in case something looks funky
21:58 iamzxyz: brb
21:59 iamzxyz: alright on phone
21:59 iamzxyz: which distro should I try rn? fedora, ubuntu, or arch
21:59 karolherbst: iamzxyz: before installing the nvidia driver, mind sharing the output of dmesg with us?
22:00 karolherbst: iamzxyz: whatever you feel most comfortable with
22:01 iamzxyz: Should I use 18.04 LTS or 19.10?
22:02 iamzxyz: i assume 18.04 wont have latest kernel
22:02 karolherbst: of course not
22:02 imirkin: iamzxyz: arch is generally safest for trying stuff on "latest" hw
22:03 karolherbst: or any rolling release think
22:03 karolherbst: debian sid or fedora rawhide are usually up to date as well
22:05 iamzxyz: ill use arch