01:04 television: https://paste.ee/r/qaMPA
01:04 television: help?
01:06 television: kernel: Linux version 4.10.9-1-ARCH (builduser@tobias) (gcc version 6.3.1 20170306 (GCC) ) #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Apr 8 12:39:59 CEST 2017
01:07 television: kernel: nouveau 0000:01:00.0: NVIDIA GT215 (0a3e00a2)
01:07 television: nVidia FX1800M
01:07 television: dell precision M4500
13:38 hussam: is there a channel for Mesa?
13:38 mupuf: dri-devel?
13:40 hussam: mupuf: there is a store that has one msi radeon rx550 and may reserve it for me. I'm interested in how in fairs in performance using mesa drivers against nvidia using proprietary drivers. so I thought I would ask in mesa channel if it exists.
13:40 mupuf: not sure what you want to ask
13:41 hussam: first if that card would work on Linux. I haven't used any non-nvidia graphics cards since the 3dfx days.
13:45 teklad: bleh
13:46 hussam: nevermind. they have a channel.
14:13 OriginCode: How to switch the graphic card driver to nouveau? I want to play Minecraft with nouveau driver.
14:13 teklad: OriginCode: What distro?
14:14 OriginCode: teklad: openSUSE
14:14 OriginCode: Tumbleweed
14:17 imirkin: hussam: i doubt the nvidia proprietary drivers would run very well on a radeon rx550...
14:18 OriginCode: O.O
14:18 hussam: imirkin: I mean nvidia hardware on nvidia driver vs open source amd.
14:18 imirkin: so as long as amdgpu/mesa loads on it, i'd say it wins head over heels...
14:18 hussam: sorry, my wording was wrong.
14:18 imirkin: hussam: any particular nvidia hardware?
14:19 hussam: nvidia 730gt kepler card gk208 2gb ddr5
14:20 imirkin: interesting choice.
14:21 hussam: usually AMD hardware appears in local markets here twice a year at most and diappears where quickly. so I'm very tempted. I called the store. they were closing but they promised to reserve it till 11AM tomorrow which is in 18 hours :)
14:22 imirkin: i'd recommend trying to find a review that compares those
14:22 hussam: ok
14:23 imirkin: dunno if this matters to you, but the rx550 has much more modern connectivity options - specifically hdmi 2.0
14:23 imirkin: (i think... they say 4K60, although they could mean the subsampled 4K 60Hz thing that you can do with HDMI 1.4)
14:23 teklad: I highly regret my recent Nvidia purchase.
14:24 hussam: would my regular hdmi cable I use right now not work?
14:24 imirkin: it'd work just fine
14:24 teklad: Being stuck on the nvidia blob hurts my face.
14:24 imirkin: teklad: which gpu again?
14:24 hussam: it's high maintenance because KDE/Gnome developers use Mesa
14:24 teklad: 1060 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GP106 [GeForce GTX 1060 6GB] (rev a1)
14:27 karolherbst_: tough
14:27 karolherbst_: we do our best though
14:28 hussam: definitely.
14:28 hussam: Kepler on nouveau performance is close to blob.
14:28 teklad: I have an nvidia 730gt sitting on my desk that I used to use.
14:29 teklad: Worked flawlessly with nouveau.
14:35 karolherbst_: hussam: for some applications
14:35 karolherbst_: teklad: you got a kepler one?
14:35 karolherbst_: because there are also fermi versions of the 730
14:39 teklad: karolherbst_: Its a kepler I believe. Exact model is N730K - 1GD5LP/OC
14:51 hussam: that looks close to mine but 1GB instead of 2GB.
14:52 teklad: I was doing some tests on OpenMW and required an upgrade.
14:52 teklad: Stupid me forgot to check the state of the nouveau driver for newer hardware, lol.
17:00 leberus: mupuf: thanks for reviewing the patches! I'll fix all what you pointed out and make a new v6
17:00 leberus: ;)
17:00 mupuf: leberus: sorry for being a little late!
17:00 mupuf: 1st of may was still considered week end for me ... but I was too tired on monday evening
17:07 leberus: mupuf: not a problem at all! Here was the same :) I'll let you know once I've sent v6 ;)
17:08 mupuf: You won't need to if you add my R-b
17:08 mupuf: git send-email will cc me
17:12 leberus: ah ok, i'll have to look up how to add that field
17:15 mupuf: just add it by hand in the commit message
18:56 karolherbst: nice nice
18:56 karolherbst: mupuf: we need a board with AGP
18:56 mupuf: karolherbst: why?
18:56 karolherbst: mupuf: I just got an old OpenFirmware based GPU with ADP
18:56 karolherbst: I think it is an Nvidia one
18:57 karolherbst: not sure yet
18:58 karolherbst: crap, it
18:58 karolherbst: 's an ATI GPU :/
18:59 imirkin: i have a G5 with AGP
18:59 imirkin: it has a FX5200 in it
18:59 karolherbst: imirkin: you wouldn't be interested in and old ATI GPU?
18:59 imirkin: i have a Rage 128 PCI running around too
19:00 imirkin: so i already have an old ATI GPU :)
19:00 imirkin: sadly i threw out my Radeon 7000
19:00 karolherbst: this one has an ADP
19:00 imirkin: (iirc it died)
19:00 imirkin: i was quite amazed i got VIVO working on it on linux back in the day
19:01 karolherbst: ohh wait
19:01 karolherbst: it is called ADC
19:02 karolherbst: mhh, is it a 9000 Pro?
19:02 imirkin: maybe it was 9000? i thought 7000
19:02 imirkin: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATi_Radeon_R100_Series
19:02 karolherbst: yep, it is
19:03 karolherbst: the one I have here is a ATI 9000 Pro
19:03 imirkin: oh
19:03 imirkin: i mean the one i had
19:03 imirkin: ;)
19:03 karolherbst: I know
19:03 karolherbst: I hoped it is an old Nvidia GPU
19:03 karolherbst: oh well
19:03 karolherbst: I will ask in #radeon
21:43 karolherbst: imirkin: I disabled that liveOnly bit for texlod instructions and it seems to work now
21:46 imirkin: odd.
21:47 karolherbst: I think I will enable it just for OP_TEX then
21:47 karolherbst: because this will cover the most already
21:47 imirkin: probably just coincidence.
21:47 karolherbst: maybe
21:47 karolherbst: but this game uses tex 2D/CUBE and texlod
21:47 imirkin: without understand what's going on, i don't want that pass at all.
21:47 imirkin: textureLod() is the same op as texture() on nvidia
21:47 imirkin: it's just LAUTO vs LZ vs LL
21:48 karolherbst: odd
21:48 imirkin: and according to logic, i don't see why it would matter either
21:48 imirkin: since it affects results
21:48 imirkin: not the lod being fetched from
21:48 imirkin: which means there's something i don't understand
21:49 karolherbst: I could have that pass in local testing and see how it affects general stuff. But it can be only enabled for certain things? Maybe dumping shaders from nvidia will shed some light
21:55 karolherbst: anyway, testing mad max today
21:56 karolherbst: ohhh crap, that game has requiernments
21:57 karolherbst: I hardly have a CPU fast enough
21:59 karolherbst: this is honest, there are no "low" settings, just "normal"
22:15 karolherbst: mhhh, runs pretty good that game