02:36karolherbst: what does "160653: message: shader compiler issue 2" mean?
06:57Tom^: karolherbst: is saints row native or using something like eON
07:11Tom^: then yea no surprise it runs like crap :P
07:11Tom^: witcher 2 ran better in wine then in eON.
07:11Tom^: wouldnt surprise me if saints row does too.
07:23karolherbst: well saints row doesn't run in wine at all cause of d3d11
07:40eballetbo: I just saw these messages on every boot, http://pastebin.com/ugyNerUt , video card works but sometimes freezes, are these messages expected? Any clue to know what exactly meant?
07:57chillfan: hey :)
07:58chillfan: Is there maybe any more info I could provide for gtx 780ti?
08:00chillfan: If not once I have my laptop properly setup, is there something needed for NV110?
08:31karolherbst: chillfan: nv110 needs testing I guess
08:31karolherbst: find issues
08:31karolherbst: report them
08:31karolherbst: nv110 is maxwell 1gen so there is a lot to do
08:31chillfan: alright, i'll give that a try when it's setup then :)
08:31karolherbst: but imirkin is gone for a while so nobody will really look into that
08:32karolherbst: and I doubt he will do until we have gen2 working anyway
08:32chillfan: oh, i'll take a little time with it for a while
08:32karolherbst: but yeah, nv110 needs testing
08:32chillfan: to setup the laptop, it's just got the standard OS on there haven't got round to it yet
08:32karolherbst: well you might want to fetch a recent kernel
08:32damex: what is standard os?
08:32karolherbst: + bleeding edge software
08:33damex: i don't know one
08:33chillfan: alright, debian sid linux 4.4?
08:33karolherbst: chillfan: use ubuntu
08:33damex: use gentoo
08:33chillfan: alright i'll look into that :)
08:33karolherbst: or pmoreau boot disc
08:33karolherbst: damex: and this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
08:33karolherbst: chillfan: ^
08:33chillfan: damex: I mean the preinstalled awful proprietary OS which I feel to embarrased to say is on there
08:34karolherbst: there should be also ppas for kernel
08:34karolherbst: chillfan: but with the xorg-edgers ppa you can pretty new software for the graphic stack so your libraries aren't too old
08:34damex: on gentoo you can just use 9999 ebuilds
08:34damex: and get over it
08:35chillfan: hm what's the pmoreau thing?
08:35pmoreau: karolherbst: I need to fix the image, some ABI conflicts with X 1.18 which I haven't looked into yet. Plus adding the headers…
08:35karolherbst: ohh okay
08:36karolherbst: damex: yeah well, gentoo is a bit hard to learn :/
08:36pmoreau: chillfan: https://nouveau.pmoreau.org/
08:36karolherbst: damex: the best thing so far I encountered (and most user friendly) is the ubuntu thing + ppas
08:36karolherbst: well I would suggest to install kubuntu or xubuntu anyway
08:36damex: try to fix something for ubuntu
08:36damex: no damn way
08:36karolherbst: this is for testing right?
08:37chillfan: alright, guess I should choose some distro that will take that ppa above for now then
08:37karolherbst: chillfan: yeah well
08:37karolherbst: maybe xubuntu is the best choice then
08:37damex: karolherbst, gentoo is not harder then making a lemon juice by yourself from a fresh lemons :)
08:38karolherbst: gentoo is harder than the usual distributions
08:38chillfan: I guess linuxmint would be an option too? it might be better to have preinstalled nvidia stuff I guess
08:38damex: define harder
08:38karolherbst: you need much more knowledge there in general
08:38damex: everything documented
08:38damex: like for monkeys
08:38karolherbst: the installation yes
08:38karolherbst: but most USE flag descriptions are stupid
08:39chillfan: haha, well really I'll just want something quick to setup so xubuntu, mint etc seem right
08:39karolherbst: damex: but I also use -* :D
08:39karolherbst: I meant USE=-*
08:39chillfan: it's only for testing so I can justify using proprietary stuff, or crapware if need be
08:39chillfan: depending what options are
08:39karolherbst: damex: there is hardly a way to have more fun on gentoo :D
08:39chillfan: dunno too much about xubuntu, but canonical is a no for me :)
08:40damex: karolherbst, i need gentoo to just work.
08:40karolherbst: chillfan: well xubuntu just uses the ubuntu packages, but with xfce preinstalled
08:41karolherbst: so no unity
08:41chillfan: ah so canonical cannot collect my meaningless data there probably
08:41karolherbst: well it is commuity developed
08:43chillfan: i'll have a go, will dual boot if I don't like it :)
08:46chillfan: pmoreau: so are these basically images that are edged right up for nouveau testing?
08:49pmoreau: chillfan: There were meant for Nouveau testing (with latest Mesa + Nouveau DDX + Nouveau kernel module), but changed to also include latest Intel + Radeon DDX)
08:50chillfan: I'll keep an eye on that page as well then :)
08:50pmoreau: Those were built daily, but since no one used them, I switched at some point to weekly.
08:51chillfan: gives me a cheeky idea actually.. if nvidia graphics laptops come my way.. I'll boot this on them, take some info and nobody will know :p
08:54tobijk: somebody knows if the libdrm 2.4.66 tarballs will show up soon? it seems ben forgot to create them :/
08:56pmoreau: Neither is there a git tag for it on the repo
08:56tobijk: ah right
08:56tobijk: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/drm/commit/?id=f49bfd98b35e5794cb60bcc4613050dfa640940c should be tagged then :)
08:57pmoreau: Right :-)
08:58pmoreau: But I guess everyone is on vacation now, so it will probably wait until next year.
08:59tobijk: and he is on vacation now as well :D
11:03Dezponia: Hmmm, seem phoronix did something weird with their latest reclocking tests again karolherbst, as you noted in the articles comments
11:04Dezponia: karolherbst: I cant imagine that the 780Ti would perform so badly in Valley (not that I ran Valley myself on my card but still. also why no heaven benchmark from him anymore?)
11:31Tom^: Dezponia: well the 780ti so far for both me and chillfan required a volt change to even run on 0f
11:31Tom^: and without nvaboost you are on quite low core clock
11:32Tom^: "config=NvBoost=3" that is.
11:32Tom^: its on like 920 without it and 1087 with it. :P
11:50karolherbst: Dezponia: yeah he emailed be actually
11:51karolherbst: well he mailed me his vbios
11:51karolherbst: so I am pretty sure how nouveau will behave with that card
11:53Tom^: did he have same volt issue?
11:53Tom^: if not im gonna cry
12:00karolherbst: no idea
12:00karolherbst: it doesn't seem that his 780 ti reclocked at all
12:00karolherbst: or maybe he didn't test this card then, because something went wrong
12:01karolherbst: I would just wait until we have solved all the other issues and fix those reclocking stuff upstream
12:02Tom^: well im happy right now, i can manually reclock it so :P
12:03Tom^: tee pstate to 0f before gaming, tee it to 0a afterwards. so im more or less just waiting for awesome patches from imirkin in mesa ;)
12:12Dezponia: karolherbst: Did he ever send you a vbios for that card? :P
13:19karolherbst: meh devs of saints row IV tries to tell us, that mesa has poor performance and therefore they don't want to support that, they also stated there are other resons :D
13:19karolherbst: this is really sad to hear actually
13:59karolherbst: skeggsb: I hope stuff is slowing down for you the last days :)
14:03glisse: skeggsb: nvidia meeting ?
16:11tobijk: skeggsb: we are missing the libdrm 2.4.66 anouncement as well as the git tag :)
16:13damme: Hello guys, I am using an semi old laptop, but its rather popular, Dell e6400/6410. I own both models. It has a Nvidia GT218M [NVS 3100M] card. The problem I have is that the screen flickers in later versions of the graphic driver (This is the same for Windows And Linux)
16:13damme: I'lve been using linux mint for a long while, but the configuration there and version I used dissapeared in a crash..
16:14damme: So, my question is, How should I tackle this and get data on Why the screen is flickering on some drivers, and others not
16:14damme: note - I am not alone
16:14damme: this is a known problem of dell e6410/e6400
16:15damme: the flicker is horizontal lines, almost like interlaced resolution but it's not
16:17damme: is there any commands that dumps very verbose information about the current settings the driver has set?
16:18damme: and, yes, it flickers in nouveau too :P (or well, it depends, which driver you latest were using)
16:19damme: it 'sticks' ,, even flickers in BIOS after using 'wrong' driver..
16:19damme: (persists was the word I was looking for)
16:49tobijk: damme: if you know a nouveau driver version which works without flickering, you could git bisect to the bad commit, making it waay easier to determine what possible goes wrong
16:50damme: yeah, good idea. I have some compiling to do... :)