00:48 lumag: colleagues, a gracious ping for https://lore.kernel.org/igt-dev/CAA8EJppGobO+iy4budAJwj97RhM4rsTgBG+Y4=JnxkJuz9qEiA@mail.gmail.com/ . I'g really like to sort it out. I've a series which breaks on current IGT kms_properties test. So we should either fix the test (in this way or in some other way) or disable it for msm hardware.
00:49 lumag: mlankhorst, jani, robclark, abhinav__ ^^
13:04 Company: bluetail: it's a spammer that has so far circumvented all attempts to ban
13:05 Company: random username joins, spams 2-3 AI-generated lines after a few minutes
13:06 bluetail: I like AI. But like everything, it can be used for the wrong things
15:56 DemiMarie: Company: I think the only way to enforce a ban would be to ban all registrations from anonymous IP addresses (VPNs, Tor, non-residential, T-Mobile IPv6, etc) and then employ IP-based bans.
17:10 Ermine: iirc the spammer haunted this channel before chatgpt and friends?
17:25 ccr: he's been around for ~10 years. he might be using some kind of Markov-chain sometimes but mostly it's just psychosis. we believe he's really there. though in the end that makes no difference.
17:57 pinchartl: ccr: https://objects-us-east-1.dream.io/secrettoeverybody/images/paynoattention.png ?
18:16 DrNick: he's been doing it for 20 years
18:16 DrNick: there was a gap in the middle here for a while when his obsession directed him at LLVM
18:18 DemiMarie: I suspect this is why Libera.Chat bans signups from Tor.
18:24 DemiMarie: It's not because they dislike privacy, but because it is extremely hard to allow anonymous access and still prevent abuse.
20:51 bluetail: ccr it would be advisable to avoid words like 'Markov-Chain' if you just want to say they are hard to understand/unclear. Because it makes you look like you tried to find the most smartass way to call them dumb
21:39 pinchartl: bluetail: it's neither about being unclear nor being dumb, as ccr mentioned we're dealing with real mental health issues here
21:46 ccr: sorry. it was not my intention to be snarky or demeaning, or anything like that, but simply to point out that his "output" may sometimes seem like it's "Markov-chain/AI generated". people who have been "dealing" with him for long time know he's not a bot (though probably he uses some automation in his .. efforts.)
21:52 Ermine: I'm attending a course on markov processes and still not sure how does it apply to such cases
22:01 pinchartl: markov chains were widely used as a tool for contextual text generation before LLMs
22:01 iive: I think that the term is "word salad".
22:02 pinchartl: sligthly less scientific :-)
22:03 iive: that's the term used in the description of the medical condition.
22:04 pinchartl: oh really ?
22:08 pinchartl: didn't know that
22:08 iive: there is wikipedia article :)
22:27 bluetail: pinchartl I have been accused of talking like a markov-chain myself. I think it's more of an communication issue.