07:18 MrCooper: gnarface: FWIW, I'd say it's more likely an issue in the dkms amdgpu driver than in the kernel
07:19 MrCooper: also, what's the issue with snapshot.debian.org (not snapshots BTW)?
07:21 MrCooper: https://snapshot.debian.org/package/linux-signed-6.1-amd64/6.1.129%2B1~deb11u1/#linux-headers-6.1-amd64_6.1.129-1:7e:deb11u1 seems to work fine here
14:46 gnarface: MrCooper: well, maybe this is a noob misunderstanding here, but when i try to actually follow the instructions for fetching that package through apt directly (which has the wrong package name in the web search result, incidentally) it tells me there's no release file for bookworm-security, so doesn't that mean that this package (which was suspiciously removed from the main repos too early, incidentally) can't be in any
14:46 gnarface: way verified for authenticity? it all just seems really sketchy... but again, maybe i'm just misunderstanding something here
14:48 MrCooper: if you want to use APT, you need to use a dated sources.list entry as explained under Usage on the front page
14:50 gnarface: MrCooper: i did, and i tried the format for both datestamps on that search result, but no luck. try it and see if you get a different result, maybe i just did it wrong, but i did once use snapshots successfully this way before, years ago for some nvidia driver version that also had been pulled from the repos too early
14:51 gnarface: so i thought i knew what i was doing...
14:53 gnarface: maybe something to do with the fact it's in *-security is making it behave different?
15:07 MrCooper: never used it via APT myself, I just download individual .debs and feed them to dpkg
15:07 gnarface: yea, aiui that completely bypasses any relevant or sane chance at verifying package authenticity
15:08 gnarface: this whole fucking thing is sketch as fuck and i heavily expect if i could actually find the original version of this package the change log would say: # patch just to light gnarface's new video card on fire
15:10 MrCooper: if you don't want to do the thing that works, that's up to you, save us the off-topic rant though
15:16 gnarface: fair enough
15:17 Venemo: MrCooper: the package on your link is 6.1.129 which gnarface already confirmed to be working. the issue is with 6.1.140 - i assume they backported something incorrectly
15:18 MrCooper: don't think that's quite accurate, it was the previously-installed version, the point of using snapshot.debian.org is to try it again for confirmation
15:19 MrCooper: gnarface: though note that even if it still works with the older kernel, it could still be a dkms amdgpu issue (not having adapted to a base kernel change)
15:19 Venemo: he already tried 6.1.129 again for confirmation, as far as I understood from his earlier messages
15:19 MrCooper: sorry for the noise if so
15:20 gnarface: yea i tried 6.1.129
15:20 gnarface: i didn't realize dkms could somehow be causing this though...
15:21 gnarface: however, to be clear, the failure to retrieve through apt from snapshots i was complaining about was actually for 6.1.139, which i have not yet tested
15:22 gnarface: specifically: linux-headers-6.1.0-36-amd64
15:23 MrCooper: all the GPU driver code is in the dkms package
15:23 gnarface: hmm