18:47 maccraft: imirkin: what's the latest card that runs without firmware
18:47 maccraft: imirkin_: ^ nvidia card*
18:47 imirkin_: without firmware at all? probably GeForce FX series
18:48 maccraft: without firmware on nouveau side
18:48 imirkin_: right ...
18:48 maccraft: kepler? i see no kepler firmware in /lib/firmware/nouveau
18:48 imirkin_: nouveau generates firmware for nv4x and nv5x, and we have pre-compiled firmware for nvc0+
18:48 maccraft: so gtx 2xx series?
18:49 imirkin_: i suspect you're not asking the right question
18:49 imirkin_: i suspect the question you mean to ask is "when does nvidia start requiring signed firmware"
18:49 maccraft: ummmmmmmmmmm
18:49 imirkin_: in which case it's the GM20x series
18:51 maccraft: imirkin_: so my mcp78 is the latest gpu that runs only on open source?
18:51 maccraft: except vgabios
18:52 imirkin_: no
18:53 maccraft: why no
18:54 imirkin_: coz there's like 3 families worth that run on open source
18:54 imirkin_: after that one
18:54 imirkin_: firmware can be open source...
18:55 maccraft: i am confused
18:59 Moiman: pre-compiled firmware can be open source
19:52 imirkin_: and/or auto-generated
19:52 imirkin_: like we do for the curie and tesla series