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Using a `MESA_VK_DEVICE_SELECT=8086:5916 MESA_VK_DEVICE_SELECT_FORCE_DEFAULT_DEVICE=1 gamescope -- glxgears` results in it using AMD GPU (even though the env. variables supposed to hide it completely), although running a `gamescope --prefer-vk-device=8086:5916 -- glxgears` launches it on Intel GPU 12:17 -!- drod [~ldm@ip-95-220-72-20.bb.netbynet.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:18 -!- drod [~ldm@ip-95-220-72-20.bb.netbynet.ru] has joined #lima 12:20 -!- Fxzx_mic [~fxzxmic@46.20.109.109] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:20 -!- Fxzx_mic [~fxzxmic@46.20.109.109] has joined #wayland 12:22 -!- miracolix [~snuckls@p4fd1ad0e.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #freedesktop 12:32 -!- mmu_man [~revol@2a01:e0a:8c9:4100:b1b2:420f:d569:ce50] has joined #nouveau 12:36 #etnaviv: < mntirc> mntirc: no, banana pi cm4 thing 12:36 #etnaviv: < mntirc> tomeu: i meant you, sorry 12:37 #etnaviv: < mntirc> tomeu: https://wiki.banana-pi.org/BPI-CM4_Computer_module_and_development_Kit 12:38 -!- mowcat [~mowcat@2a00:23c5:d190:1901:f22f:74ff:fe77:1e1c] has joined #radeon 12:39 -!- junaid [~junaid@ip5f59251d.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:39 -!- junaid [~junaid@ip5f59251d.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:39 -!- junaid [~junaid@ip5f59251d.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:44 -!- ice99 [~ice9@kernelone.com] has joined #intel-gfx 12:44 -!- ice99 [~ice9@kernelone.com] has joined #dri-devel 12:47 -!- molinari [~molinari@vir47-h01-176-172-98-151.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr] has joined #wayland 12:51 -!- ice9 [~ice9@0001f41b.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:51 -!- ice9 [~ice9@0001f41b.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:59 #dri-devel: < X512> Hi-Angel: Why use Vulkan settings for GLX OpenGL program? 13:00 -!- YuGiOhJCJ [~YuGiOhJCJ@00021b1f.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: YuGiOhJCJ] 13:00 #freedreno: < lumag> robclark, abhinav__ I'm more or less happy with current https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/msm/-/merge_requests/36 13:05 #dri-devel: < Hi-Angel> X512, the gamescope in my comment is a vulkan program, not OpenGL. Even so, I use `gamescope` as just an example. I actually want to make Skype stop using my discrete card (nonsense, why would they do that 🤷‍♂️), which apparently does that through means of Vulkan. 13:07 #dri-devel: < emersion> Hi-Angel: have you tried VK_ICD_FILENAMES? 13:07 -!- Tom^-laptop [~tom@h-158-174-67-168.A159.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #nouveau 13:07 -!- Tom^ [~tom@h-158-174-67-168.A159.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:09 -!- nckncknck [~freeman@broadband-37-110-50-132.ip.moscow.rt.ru] has left #nouveau [] 13:10 -!- Leopold_ [~quassel@7MPAAAAJM.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:10 -!- Leopold_ [~quassel@7MPAAAAJM.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:10 -!- Leopold_ [~quassel@7MPAAAAJM.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:10 -!- Leopold_ [~quassel@7MPAAAAJM.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:10 -!- Leopold_ [~quassel@7MPAAAAJM.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:10 -!- Leopold_ [~quassel@7MPAAAAJM.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:10 -!- Leopold_ [~quassel@7MPAAAAJM.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:10 -!- Leopold_ [~quassel@7MPAAAAJM.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:10 -!- Leopold_ [~quassel@7MPAAAAJM.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:11 -!- Leopold [~quassel@7MPAAAAJT.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #lima 13:11 -!- Leopold [~quassel@7MPAAAAJT.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #radeon 13:11 -!- Leopold [~quassel@7MPAAAAJT.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #intel-3d 13:11 -!- Leopold [~quassel@7MPAAAAJT.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #intel-gfx 13:11 -!- Leopold [~quassel@7MPAAAAJT.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #freedesktop 13:11 -!- Leopold [~quassel@7MPAAAAJT.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #nouveau 13:11 -!- Leopold [~quassel@7MPAAAAJT.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #dri-devel 13:11 -!- Leopold [~quassel@7MPAAAAJT.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #etnaviv 13:11 -!- Leopold [~quassel@7MPAAAAJT.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #wayland 13:11 #dri-devel: < Hi-Angel> emersion, yay, thank worked! So: `VK_ICD_FILENAMES=/usr/share/vulkan/icd.d/intel_icd.x86_64.json gamescope -- glxgears` launches on Intel card, thanks! 13:11 -!- Fxzx_mic [~fxzxmic@46.20.109.109] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:11 #dri-devel: < emersion> np 13:12 #dri-devel: < emersion> i think MESA_VK_DEVICE_SELECT only works if the mesa device select layer is enabled 13:12 #dri-devel: < emersion> which it isn't by default in general 13:18 -!- gouchi [~gouchi@0002b959.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:18 #dri-devel: < Hi-Angel> As a side note, skypeforlinux still uses the discrete card even with the variable 🤷‍♂️ Not sure how else could it do that, from my googling there's no way to choose device with OpenGL or EGL, so Vulkan was the only way… Weird. 13:20 #dri-devel: < emersion> there are ways to select the device with EGL 13:20 #dri-devel: < emersion> e.g. by using EGL_EXT_platform_device 13:20 -!- ___nick___ [~quassel@cpc68289-cdif17-2-0-cust317.5-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #radeon 13:20 -!- ___nick___ [~quassel@cpc68289-cdif17-2-0-cust317.5-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #wayland 13:20 -!- ___nick___ [~quassel@cpc68289-cdif17-2-0-cust317.5-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #freedesktop 13:21 #dri-devel: < emersion> there are also other APIs with other conventions 13:21 #dri-devel: < emersion> VA-API for instance… 13:21 #dri-devel: < Hi-Angel> Huh. Actually, even when running `VK_ICD_FILENAMES=/usr/share/vulkan/icd.d/intel_icd.x86_64.json gamescope -- glxgears`, the AMD GPU wakes up as can be seen by `[drm] PCIE GART of 256M enabled (table at 0x000000F400000000)` entry in the log. Even though the `gamescope` definitely does *not* use the AMD GPU, because it shows visual artifacts on glxgears (a known bug in combination with Intel GPU) :/ 13:25 #dri-devel: < Hi-Angel> emersion, thanks for mentioning `EXT_platform_device`! I'll leave a comment on two StackOverflow questions about choosing a GPU through means of OpenGL as currently nobody mentioned that 13:25 #dri-devel: < emersion> another way would be GBM then using the GBM platform 13:26 #dri-devel: < emersion> in both of these cases, i don't think there is an env var to override 13:34 -!- mowcat [~mowcat@2a00:23c5:d190:1901:f22f:74ff:fe77:1e1c] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:35 -!- LordKalma [~LordKalma@server.portaldoradioamador.pt] has quit [Quit: Server has probably crashed] 13:35 -!- LordKalma [~LordKalma@server.portaldoradioamador.pt] has joined #dri-devel 13:35 -!- LordKalma [~LordKalma@server.portaldoradioamador.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:36 -!- LordKalma [~LordKalma@server.portaldoradioamador.pt] has joined #dri-devel 13:36 -!- LordKalma [~LordKalma@server.portaldoradioamador.pt] has quit [] 13:36 #dri-devel: < FireBurn> I usually use DRI_PRIME so select which gpu, and there's a MR to make selecting using the pci address work too 13:36 -!- LordKalma [~LordKalma@server.portaldoradioamador.pt] has joined #dri-devel 13:37 #dri-devel: < FireBurn> https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/19101 13:38 -!- LordKalma [~LordKalma@server.portaldoradioamador.pt] has quit [] 13:42 -!- Fxzx_mic [~fxzxmic@46.20.109.109] has joined #wayland 13:43 -!- XYZ [~XYZ@89-24-58-41.nat.epc.tmcz.cz] has joined #radeon 13:45 -!- Leopold [~quassel@7MPAAAAJT.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:45 -!- Leopold [~quassel@7MPAAAAJT.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:45 -!- Leopold [~quassel@7MPAAAAJT.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:45 -!- Leopold [~quassel@7MPAAAAJT.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:45 -!- Leopold [~quassel@7MPAAAAJT.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:45 -!- Leopold [~quassel@7MPAAAAJT.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:45 -!- Leopold [~quassel@7MPAAAAJT.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:45 -!- Leopold [~quassel@7MPAAAAJT.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:45 -!- Leopold [~quassel@7MPAAAAJT.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:45 -!- kts [~kts@103.73.236.58] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:45 -!- kts [~kts@103.73.236.58] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:45 -!- kts [~kts@103.73.236.58] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:45 -!- kts [~kts@103.73.236.58] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:46 -!- Leopold [~quassel@7MPAAAAJX.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #lima 13:46 -!- Leopold [~quassel@7MPAAAAJX.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #radeon 13:46 -!- Leopold [~quassel@7MPAAAAJX.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #intel-3d 13:46 -!- Leopold [~quassel@7MPAAAAJX.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #intel-gfx 13:46 -!- Leopold [~quassel@7MPAAAAJX.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #freedesktop 13:46 -!- Leopold [~quassel@7MPAAAAJX.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #nouveau 13:46 -!- Leopold [~quassel@7MPAAAAJX.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #dri-devel 13:46 -!- Leopold [~quassel@7MPAAAAJX.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #etnaviv 13:46 -!- Leopold [~quassel@7MPAAAAJX.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #wayland 13:49 -!- Tom^ [~tom@h-158-174-67-168.A159.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #nouveau 13:49 -!- Tom^-laptop [~tom@h-158-174-67-168.A159.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:52 #dri-devel: < emersion> DRI_PRIME works with regular EGL apps only, not in the other cases mentioned above 13:57 -!- iive [~iive@87.119.101.204.client.entry.bg] has joined #dri-devel 13:57 -!- iive [~iive@87.119.101.204.client.entry.bg] has joined #radeon 13:57 -!- iive [~iive@87.119.101.204.client.entry.bg] has joined #d3d9 13:59 #dri-devel: < FireBurn> VA-API lets me use DRI_PRIME 14:01 -!- nckncknck [~freeman@broadband-37-110-50-132.ip.moscow.rt.ru] has joined #nouveau 14:01 #dri-devel: < Hi-Angel> emersion, the MR FireBurn mentioned makes DRI_PRIME work with Vulkan as well 14:02 #dri-devel: < Hi-Angel> If I'm not misreading it of course 14:03 #dri-devel: < emersion> that surprises me, i don't see any mention of DRI_PRIME in libva 14:04 #dri-devel: < FireBurn> It already works with Vulkan, it just improves it 14:04 #dri-devel: < FireBurn> I've been using DRI_PRIME since it's support was added many moons ago 14:06 #dri-devel: < FireBurn> emersion: You can test it with DRI_PRIME=0 vainfo and DRI_PRIME=1 vainfo, if the second card uses a different driver you might also have to specify it using LIBVA_DRIVER_NAME= 14:07 #dri-devel: < FireBurn> So if you're on an Intel/AMD setup DRI_PRIME=1 LIBVA_DRIVER_NAME=radeonsi vainfo should be enough 14:07 #dri-devel: < emersion> ah, then DRI_PRIME=1 doesn't actually do anything 14:07 #dri-devel: < Hi-Angel> FireBurn, does it already work with Vulkan? Can't seem to confirm: when I run a `DRI_PRIME=8086:5916 gamescope -- glxgears`, it makes use of AMD GPU instead of the Intel one that has VID:PID 8086:5916 14:07 #dri-devel: < FireBurn> On an AMD/AMD setup LIBVA_DRIVER_NAME shouldn't be necessary 14:07 #dri-devel: < emersion> LIBVA_DRIVER_NAME does all of the work 14:08 #dri-devel: < FireBurn> Try DRI_PRIME=0 or 1 14:08 #dri-devel: < Hi-Angel> DRI_PRIME=0 has same effect; however according to docs https://docs.mesa3d.org/envvars.html#envvar-DRI_PRIME the `0` actually does nothing. The `1` implies "run on AMD GPU" which is the default on my system (for some reason, Idk why) 14:09 #dri-devel: < FireBurn> Do you have the vulkan layer enabled? 14:09 #dri-devel: < Hi-Angel> (I meant, default for Vulkan apps, not OpenGL 🤷‍♂️) 14:10 #dri-devel: < FireBurn> This: -Dvulkan-layers=device-select enabled in Mesa 14:10 #dri-devel: < Hi-Angel> Oh, wow! 14:10 -!- kzd [~kzd@static-198-54-130-100.cust.tzulo.com] has joined #radeon 14:10 -!- kzd [~kzd@static-198-54-130-100.cust.tzulo.com] has joined #dri-devel 14:10 #dri-devel: < Hi-Angel> FireBurn, I instealled mesa-vulkan-layers, and now it does work! 14:10 #dri-devel: < Hi-Angel> Cool 14:11 #dri-devel: < FireBurn> Great news 14:11 #dri-devel: < Hi-Angel> Yeah, that's quite a nuance that for that to work vulkan layers are needed. Probably worth adding that to the docs for DRI_PRIME 14:13 #dri-devel: < X512> https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/20793 seems fixed Haiku Zink crashes on window resize. 14:14 #dri-devel: < Hi-Angel> Btw, installing vulkan layers actually improved the default behavior on my system, because now `gamescope` defaults to the integrated card as it's supposed to (but DRI_PRIME does work, I tested PID:VID with the AMD GPU as well) 14:18 -!- kts [~kts@103.73.236.74] has joined #dri-devel 14:18 -!- kts [~kts@103.73.236.74] has joined #intel-3d 14:18 -!- kts [~kts@103.73.236.74] has joined #intel-gfx 14:18 -!- kts [~kts@103.73.236.74] has joined #wayland 14:20 -!- Kruppt [~Kruppt@50-111-32-62.drhm.nc.frontiernet.net] has joined #nouveau 14:22 -!- radu24284303951534727071489559 [~radu242@2600:4041:54f3:a00:8666:1f1c:7f61:dfea] has joined #wayland 14:35 -!- nckncknck [~freeman@broadband-37-110-50-132.ip.moscow.rt.ru] has left #nouveau [] 14:37 -!- sarnex_ [~sarnex@2600:6c64:6b7f:52dd:2a0:98ff:fe18:93d2] has quit [] 14:37 -!- sarnex_ [~sarnex@2600:6c64:6b7f:52dd:2a0:98ff:fe18:93d2] has quit [] 14:37 -!- sarnex_ [~sarnex@2600:6c64:6b7f:52dd:2a0:98ff:fe18:93d2] has quit [] 14:37 -!- sarnex [~sarnex@024-107-237-235.res.spectrum.com] has joined #d3d9 14:37 -!- sarnex [~sarnex@024-107-237-235.res.spectrum.com] has joined #dri-devel 14:37 -!- sarnex [~sarnex@024-107-237-235.res.spectrum.com] has joined #radeon 14:42 -!- radu24284303951534727071489559 [~radu242@2600:4041:54f3:a00:8666:1f1c:7f61:dfea] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:51 -!- warpme_____ [uid391875@id-391875.helmsley.irccloud.com] has quit [] 14:51 -!- warpme_____ [uid391875@id-391875.helmsley.irccloud.com] has quit [] 14:53 -!- cool110_ [~mark@0002e01f.user.oftc.net] has joined #wayland 14:55 -!- cool110 [~mark@0002e01f.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:04 -!- sarnex [~sarnex@0002ba23.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 15:04 -!- sarnex [~sarnex@0002ba23.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 15:04 -!- sarnex [~sarnex@0002ba23.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 15:06 -!- sarnex [~sarnex@024-107-237-235.res.spectrum.com] has joined #d3d9 15:06 -!- sarnex [~sarnex@024-107-237-235.res.spectrum.com] has joined #dri-devel 15:06 -!- sarnex [~sarnex@024-107-237-235.res.spectrum.com] has joined #radeon 15:07 -!- sarnex [~sarnex@0002ba23.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:07 -!- sarnex [~sarnex@0002ba23.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:07 -!- sarnex [~sarnex@0002ba23.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:10 -!- Fxzx_mic [~fxzxmic@46.20.109.109] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:10 #freedreno: < robclark> lumag: looks like it needs to be rebased on msm-next? 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ccu currently.. but I guess as is it should be enough to get sysmem rendering working.. 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I'll have a patch for that one - strangely either something in scope or something within GCC's optimizations was allowing that to compile 17:49 #freedreno: < abhinav__> robclark understood, will try to do what we can by next week 17:50 #nouveau: < KungFuJesus> Weird that it was hiding in glx for so long, though. I found it because clang refused to let me build with it. I'll have an MR shortly 17:51 -!- prOMiNd [~quassel@77.78.12.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:51 -!- prOMiNd [~quassel@77.78.12.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:55 -!- jarthur [~jarthur@2603-8080-1500-1a3e-fc2f-5cb5-4141-c704.res6.spectrum.com] has joined #freedesktop 17:55 -!- jarthur [~jarthur@2603-8080-1500-1a3e-fc2f-5cb5-4141-c704.res6.spectrum.com] has joined #radeon 17:55 -!- prOMiNd [~quassel@77.78.12.89] has joined #radeon 17:55 -!- prOMiNd [~quassel@77.78.12.89] has joined #intel-gfx 17:56 #nouveau: < KungFuJesus> karolherbst: here's the MR: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/20830 17:58 #freedreno: < lumag> abhinav__, nearly no chance. It's intrusive, I'd like to postpone it for the next release, so that it can be properly tested in -next 18:00 #freedreno: < lumag> Otherwise we risk breaking it without a chance to notice it. 18:00 -!- XYZ [~XYZ@89-24-58-41.nat.epc.tmcz.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:00 #freedreno: < lumag> I'd have enjoyed merging parts of wide planes, but _that_ late in the cycle I also wouldn't pressure it. 18:04 -!- FireBurn [~fireburn@0001c9f7.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 18:04 -!- FireBurn [~fireburn@0001c9f7.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 18:04 -!- FireBurn [~fireburn@0001c9f7.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 18:06 -!- Brainium [~brainium@00028330.user.oftc.net] has joined #radeon 18:06 -!- Brainium [~brainium@00028330.user.oftc.net] has joined #wayland 18:18 #freedreno: < abhinav__> lumag understood, there was some delay in posting v11 of PSR, after our meeting .... perhaps that led to this missing out this cycle 18:22 #freedreno: < lumag> I think it would be proper to pick it up early during the cycle. Some of the changes are going to touch panel/core layers. This would have to be coordinated somehow. I'd probably prefer to have an immutable branch in drm-misc? having core changes, which we can then merge into msm-next 18:22 -!- XYZ [~XYZ@89-24-58-41.nat.epc.tmcz.cz] has joined #radeon 18:26 #freedreno: < abhinav__> OR since we have an ack for the DRM core bits, we can ask daniel if we can land the entire series from our tree 18:27 #nouveau: < KungFuJesus> Also, O1 doesn't have the issue. Might painstakingly find which optimization causes the uninitialized memory to be used. My bet is probably -fstrict-aliasing, but I dunno. The unitiailized memory in question is in the fragement shader programs, with some variables in the "instruction" argument: https://pastebin.com/3kb7wWgt 18:28 #freedreno: < abhinav__> but i guess first step is to complete the review of the new patchset 18:28 #freedreno: < abhinav__> since now, it has been decoupled from the CRTC pinning patch 18:31 -!- prOMiNd [~quassel@77.78.12.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:31 -!- prOMiNd [~quassel@77.78.12.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:40 #nouveau: < KungFuJesus> hmm, turning on just strict aliasing doesn't do it, but of course that doesn't mean that that optimization isn't the issue, it could just be made more apparent with other optimizations enabled 18:46 #dri-devel: < DemiMarie> What are the advantages of userspace direct-to-FW submission? Seems like it massively increases FW-side attack surface. I guess it makes sense on Windows, where the GPU FW and kernel driver are made by the same company and likely of similar quality, but on Linux the GPU driver gets a lot of review while the FW gets none. 18:48 -!- lemonzest [~lemonzest@cpc86080-nott19-2-0-cust160.12-2.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 3.6] 18:48 -!- lemonzest [~lemonzest@cpc86080-nott19-2-0-cust160.12-2.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 3.6] 18:52 #freedreno: < lumag> abhinav__, an ack from Daniel doesn't save drm branches from having to cope with core and panel changes 18:53 -!- sozuba [~sozuba@00028e8f.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:54 -!- junaid [~junaid@ip5f59251d.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #dri-devel 18:54 -!- junaid [~junaid@ip5f59251d.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #wayland 18:54 -!- junaid [~junaid@ip5f59251d.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #radeon 18:59 -!- glennk [~glenn@c-e48ce455.010-333-6d6c6d4.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:59 -!- glennk [~glenn@c-e48ce455.010-333-6d6c6d4.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:59 -!- glennk [~glenn@c-e48ce455.010-333-6d6c6d4.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:59 -!- glennk [~glenn@c-e48ce455.010-333-6d6c6d4.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:59 -!- glennk [~glenn@c-e48ce455.010-333-6d6c6d4.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:59 -!- glennk [~glenn@c-e48ce455.010-333-6d6c6d4.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:59 -!- glennk [~glenn@c-e48ce455.010-333-6d6c6d4.bbcust.telenor.se] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:00 -!- glennk [~glenn@c-e48ce455.010-333-6d6c6d4.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined #dri-devel 19:00 -!- glennk [~glenn@c-e48ce455.010-333-6d6c6d4.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined #nouveau 19:00 -!- glennk [~glenn@c-e48ce455.010-333-6d6c6d4.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined #radeon 19:00 -!- glennk [~glenn@c-e48ce455.010-333-6d6c6d4.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined #wayland 19:00 -!- glennk [~glenn@c-e48ce455.010-333-6d6c6d4.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined #freedreno 19:00 -!- glennk [~glenn@c-e48ce455.010-333-6d6c6d4.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined #intel-3d 19:00 -!- glennk [~glenn@c-e48ce455.010-333-6d6c6d4.bbcust.telenor.se] has joined #intel-gfx 19:01 -!- Hi-Angel [~Hi-Angel@213.24.133.164] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:11 #freedreno: < robclark> lumag, abhinav__: 07/15 in particular is enough of a potential behavior break that it would be good to land first in drm-misc and then merge into msm-next 19:12 #freedreno: < robclark> maybe try and get that in drm-misc-next ASAP after the 6.3 merge window? 19:17 #dri-devel: < jekstrand> DemiMarie: In theory, it should be faster and more power-efficient since the kernel doesn't have to burn as much main CPU time on juggling GPU work. 19:17 #dri-devel: < DemiMarie> jekstrand: in practice? 19:17 #dri-devel: < jekstrand> DemiMarie: In practice, it's still not incredibly well-proven. 19:17 #nouveau: < KungFuJesus> store-merging + strict-aliasing induces it, going to see if I can produce it with just store-merging. That at least tells me the class of bug for this 19:18 #dri-devel: < jekstrand> What is pretty well-proven, though, is tha non-firmware-based HW interfaces suck. 19:18 #dri-devel: < jekstrand> But can we get 99% of the efficiency with the kernel still in the loop? Maybe. 19:19 #dri-devel: < jekstrand> As far as security goes, it shouldn't be that much more of an attack surface than your GPU as a whole. 19:20 #wayland: < i509vcb> Would it be discouraged if I opened a "take 2" MR for a protocol in wayland-protocols that has been stalled for some time and the maintainer hasn't responded in some time? 19:20 #dri-devel: < jekstrand> Depends on the HW and FW design, of course. 19:21 #dri-devel: < javierm> jekstrand, DemiMarie: I always thought that was more about protecting the GPU companies IP while allowing to have open source kernel and GL/vulkan drivers 19:25 #freedreno: < abhinav__> lumag robclark alright, that sounds like a plan 19:27 #freedreno: < abhinav__> PSR has been in development for almost a year from what I can see in PW 19:27 #freedreno: < abhinav__> so getting it landed should be a priority for all of us 19:31 #dri-devel: < bnieuwenhuizen> jekstrand: benefit is that we finally have an impetus to get the fairly slow BO LRU handling out of the hot path. Submission performance has been pretty brutal 19:31 #dri-devel: < DemiMarie> jekstrand: why do you state that the attack surface should not be much more? 19:32 -!- sparky4 [~sparky4@wireless-c-1758.LaTech.edu] has joined #nouveau 19:32 #nouveau: < KungFuJesus> wow, yeah it looks like store-merging is the optimization that breaks it. Now I can play whack-a-mole and see if any one given function is the culprit by injecting the optimization attribute with that off 19:33 #nouveau: < KungFuJesus> "reverse optimized debugging" 19:35 -!- nckncknck [~freeman@broadband-37-110-50-132.ip.moscow.rt.ru] has left #nouveau [] 19:36 -!- nckncknck [~freeman@broadband-37-110-50-132.ip.moscow.rt.ru] has joined #nouveau 19:36 -!- digetx [~quassel@109-252-117-89.nat.spd-mgts.ru] has joined #dri-devel 19:36 -!- digetx [~quassel@109-252-117-89.nat.spd-mgts.ru] has joined #freedreno 19:43 -!- Leopold__ [~quassel@7MPAAAAKJ.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:43 -!- Leopold__ [~quassel@7MPAAAAKJ.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:43 -!- Leopold__ [~quassel@7MPAAAAKJ.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:43 -!- Leopold__ [~quassel@7MPAAAAKJ.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:43 -!- Leopold__ [~quassel@7MPAAAAKJ.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:43 -!- Leopold__ [~quassel@7MPAAAAKJ.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:43 -!- Leopold__ [~quassel@7MPAAAAKJ.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:43 -!- Leopold__ [~quassel@7MPAAAAKJ.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:43 -!- Leopold__ [~quassel@7MPAAAAKJ.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:43 -!- JohnDoe_71Rus [~JohnDoe@node-199-165-35-212.domolink.tula.net] has quit [] 19:45 -!- bluetail [~bluetail@193.138.7.142] has joined #dri-devel 19:46 #dri-devel: < bluetail> Hello. I am on archlinux. I installed mesa-git, but when I want to update I get ":: installing llvm-libs (15.0.7-1) breaks dependency 'llvm-libs=14.0.6' required by mesa-git" 19:47 #dri-devel: < psykose> this sounds like an issue for whoever maintains the aur package you are installing 19:47 -!- RSpliet [~RSpliet@spliet.org] has quit [Quit: Bye bye man, bye bye] 19:47 -!- RSpliet [~RSpliet@spliet.org] has quit [Quit: Bye bye man, bye bye] 19:47 -!- RSpliet [~RSpliet@spliet.org] has joined #dri-devel 19:47 -!- RSpliet [~RSpliet@spliet.org] has joined #nouveau 19:48 #dri-devel: < bluetail> in this case, I can just try the immediate git package right? 19:48 -!- gbelgurr [gbelgurr@gbelgurr.shell.oddprotocol.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:49 #dri-devel: < bluetail> wait, there are comments on how to use it from the AUR page... 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On Linux, I'm unconvinced that it should be any faster. 22:15 #dri-devel: < jekstrand> But the execlist submission ports are a pretty bad HW design so not having to mess about with those is pretty nice. 22:21 #dri-devel: < jekstrand> I'm personally inclined to think that FW submission isn't what really matters. 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Or fill all possible part-size value for all services.. which doesn't sounds right. 22:32 #d3d9: < DavidHeidelberg[m]> adavy: hehe, nice smile, but need the quick Ab or Rb on the piglit stuff :D 22:33 -!- Leopold_ [~quassel@7MPAAAAK9.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:33 -!- Leopold_ [~quassel@7MPAAAAK9.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:33 -!- Leopold_ [~quassel@7MPAAAAK9.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:33 -!- Leopold_ [~quassel@7MPAAAAK9.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:33 -!- Leopold_ [~quassel@7MPAAAAK9.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:33 -!- Leopold_ [~quassel@7MPAAAAK9.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:33 -!- Leopold_ [~quassel@7MPAAAAK9.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:33 -!- Leopold_ [~quassel@7MPAAAAK9.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:33 -!- Leopold_ [~quassel@7MPAAAAK9.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:52 -!- Duke`` [~plop@2a01cb0007977800e0d48cfb4dd546c3.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:52 -!- Duke`` [~plop@2a01cb0007977800e0d48cfb4dd546c3.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:53 -!- pret7 [~abhishek@pool-71-105-205-179.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #dri-devel 22:53 -!- cef [~cef@159.196.170.50] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:53 -!- cef [~cef@159.196.170.50] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:53 #dri-devel: < bnieuwenhuizen> jekstrand: I dunno, on AMD the direct-to-fw path seems to be pretty much the same as the kernel-to-fw path, so to me it looks like we save kernel costs while not really adding any FW cost 22:56 -!- Deluxef [~Deluxe@212.4.150.151] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:56 -!- fab [~fab@bellet.info] has quit [Quit: fab] 22:57 -!- cef [~cef@159.196.170.50] has joined #dri-devel 22:57 -!- cef [~cef@159.196.170.50] has joined #intel-3d 23:05 -!- mmu_man [~revol@2a01:e0a:8c9:4100:b1b2:420f:d569:ce50] has joined #nouveau 23:07 -!- JohnnyonFlame [~quassel@179-107-141-234.zamix.com.br] has joined #dri-devel 23:07 -!- JohnnyonFlame [~quassel@179-107-141-234.zamix.com.br] has joined #etnaviv 23:13 -!- julio7359 [~julio7359@75.172.139.251] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:14 -!- Brainium [~brainium@00028330.user.oftc.net] has joined #radeon 23:14 -!- Brainium [~brainium@00028330.user.oftc.net] has joined #wayland 23:14 -!- JohnnyonF [~quassel@179-107-141-234.zamix.com.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:14 -!- JohnnyonF [~quassel@179-107-141-234.zamix.com.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:15 -!- fmuellner [~fmuellner@78.30.26.40] has joined #wayland 23:23 -!- JohnnyonFlame [~quassel@179-107-141-234.zamix.com.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:23 -!- JohnnyonFlame [~quassel@179-107-141-234.zamix.com.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:26 -!- julio7359 [~julio7359@75.172.139.251] has joined #wayland 23:28 -!- hardening [~quassel@arennes-653-1-303-132.w109-218.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:34 #dri-devel: < jekstrand> bnieuwenhuizen: Yup. The question is how much cost is being saved. IDK that it's much once we get kernel submit to be non-stupid. 23:36 #dri-devel: < bnieuwenhuizen> jekstrand: once we add in some virtualization? 23:36 #dri-devel: < bnieuwenhuizen> I hear those VM calls are expensive 23:38 #dri-devel: < jekstrand> bnieuwenhuizen: Yeah, for virtualization it's a pretty clear win 23:38 #dri-devel: < jekstrand> Though I think we can get kernel submit a lot better there with work 23:38 #dri-devel: < bnieuwenhuizen> granted I dunno how we end up doing sync primitives 23:38 #dri-devel: < jekstrand> UMF 23:39 #dri-devel: < bnieuwenhuizen> yeah, somehow UMF seems a lot farther away than direct-to-fw submissions 23:39 #dri-devel: < bnieuwenhuizen> though if it were me we'd just do the timeout thing and allow making sync files out of them 23:40 #dri-devel: < jekstrand> I'm hoping UMF is in the 2-4 years timeframe. 23:40 -!- danvet [~Daniel@0002b820.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:40 -!- danvet [~Daniel@0002b820.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:40 -!- danvet [~Daniel@0002b820.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:40 -!- danvet [~Daniel@0002b820.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:40 -!- danvet [~Daniel@0002b820.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:40 -!- danvet [~Daniel@0002b820.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:40 -!- danvet [~Daniel@0002b820.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:40 #dri-devel: < bnieuwenhuizen> yeah, some of the stuff I've been seeing from the amdgpu team have me hoping/dreaming for direct-to-fw this year :) 23:41 #dri-devel: < bnieuwenhuizen> which leaves the question what happens for sync in the interim 23:45 #dri-devel: < LaserEyess> https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/amd/-/issues/476 consensus from AMD in this issue is that adding a patch to default to RGB would not be acceptable and they want to do things "properly" by adding a DRM parameter, exposing it to userspace via libdrm, and then having compositors handle the details of setting it 23:45 #dri-devel: < LaserEyess> however, there doesn't seem to be any information if people are working on this or not 23:46 #dri-devel: < LaserEyess> is there an active mailing list thread about this issue and/or a patch that implements some sort of solution to this? 23:47 -!- julio7359 [~julio7359@75.172.139.251] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:47 #dri-devel: < LaserEyess> valve seems to have used the patch in that thread (or something similar) to make this work on the steam deck, so presumably someone has done some work to figure this out "properly", but I can't really find it 23:47 #dri-devel: < jekstrand> bnieuwenhuizen: With out UMF, they're going to be dissapointed. :) 23:48 #dri-devel: < bnieuwenhuizen> note that in amdgpu we kinda have UMF already 23:48 #dri-devel: < bnieuwenhuizen> or really (context, queue, submission seq id) pairs that get signalled to memory if we want to 23:49 -!- miracolix [~snuckls@p4fd1ad0e.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:57 #dri-devel: < airlied> I saw some userspace submit patches from amd for gfx recently? but didn't dig in 23:58 #dri-devel: < airlied> bnieuwenhuizen: do they just unmap the doorbell page when the VM invalidates? 23:58 #dri-devel: < bnieuwenhuizen> yeah looked like 23:58 #dri-devel: < bnieuwenhuizen> not sure I understand how that works exactly 23:58 #dri-devel: < airlied> would be fun if you have the two 51% vram users 23:59 #dri-devel: < airlied> I wonder how you'd guarantee any forward progress there 23:59 #dri-devel: < airlied> like by the time you get to submit a command stream from userspace the other process could have unmapped your page, and around it goes 23:59 #dri-devel: < bnieuwenhuizen> note the kernel can still spill to gtt and then enable the VM again --- Log closed Sun Jan 22 00:00:10 2023