00:45 Company: karolherbst: (because you're on the forefront of the AI discussions, I'm interested in your opinion in particular) What's your opinion on tools like https://sashiko.dev/ ?
00:47 karolherbst: I'd be okay with it, if the AI companies wouldn't see any money for it 🙃
00:48 karolherbst: like I think it's fine as long as it's something that gives something back to the community and not is just another source of income. But I suspect the linux thing is also "advertisement" in that sense and I suspect smaller projects _will_ have to pay for it, even though most of the genAI models are trained on the collective FOSS communities work
00:49 Company: well, projects like FDO or Gnome could ask for sponsorships to run it
00:50 Company: and some of us have employers that are keen on their employees using more AI, so...
00:51 karolherbst: my personal take on companies forcing employees to use AI is, that it makes them unfit to be maintainers 🙃
00:51 Company: but I'm still wondering if there's a catch - and I can't judge if their reports are useful or a waste of time
00:51 karolherbst: like I can't trust a person to be a good maintainer if decisions are based on "my employer might fire me if I don't do X"
00:52 Company: yeah, I was more thinking about "my employer might have extra funding if I come up with ways to use AI"
00:52 karolherbst: I think it depends, and we can always try it out for a while and make it opt-in
00:52 karolherbst: but dunno
00:52 karolherbst: it has to be a decision by the community
00:54 karolherbst: but then again, if we get it for free, so that it's "advertisement", then that can put us in a weird spot, what if they say after a year "yeah.. now you have to pay"
00:54 karolherbst: which is super likely, because all the tooling is heavily subsidized and all the companies are running at a loss with it
00:55 karolherbst: and I don't appreciate the "let's hook everybody first and then we'll reap" dynamics
00:55 Company: yeah, I've thought about that
00:55 Company: but we get sponsorships for CI - and are kinda hooked on that, too
00:56 Company: of course, that's a different relationship than getting it as an ad
00:58 Company: I have to admit I have no idea what it costs to do this, and what the expectation is for costs in a year or so
01:01 karolherbst: yeah...
01:01 karolherbst: most of our sponsorship comes form putting up logos of companies at XDC
01:02 karolherbst: we decided against corpo gitlab edition, because we also didn't want to depend on that
07:58 dolphin: airlied, sima: drm-intel-fixes PR sent