07:17 Venemo: cheako: thank you, I think this is useful to know. did you say the same problem also happened on Wayland? was that also an issue with acquiring the next image?
07:20 cheako: I didn't know to test for that, but my memory of trying to test on Wayland that things were so different it wasn't a useful test.
07:21 cheako: I'd be interested if I could switch just that one function over to Wayland... You know.
07:22 Venemo: not possible
07:25 Venemo: well, at least one good thing that came out of this investigation is that we now know the problem isn't in mesa but in Xorg
15:13 cheako: My guess is still firmware or silicone, the important part is it does not look like it's the game.
15:18 cheako: As for making big changes when testing I'm not sure if it's helpful. If I told you to identify what system I'm thinking about but the only clue you get is that it's different between Wayland and X or conversely that this system is the same... could you even guess? Making big sweeping changes without the ability to perform tests on each system in isolation, is pointless.
15:22 cheako: *seems pointless*
16:00 Venemo: cheako: it is very unlikely that you can find anyone who can and will fix Xorg
16:01 cheako: Well that's a shame, it's still a requirement for wine/proton.
16:02 Venemo: it's not
16:02 Venemo: they happily run through XWayland
16:02 cheako: No they don't... that's why I keep saying I can't test under wayland.
16:03 Venemo: They work fine for me on XWayland, and have been for years
16:04 Venemo: same on Steam Deck
16:06 Venemo: note, don't confuse XWayland with the native wine-wayland which is not ready yet and probably won't be for a long time.
16:17 cheako: Right and saying "it is very unlikely that you can find anyone who can and will fix XWayland" is kinda besides the point... it's not impossible but it's unlikely the problem is with Xorg.
16:19 Venemo: well, didn't you say that the call was calling something in X?
16:24 cheako: As a question what ioctls are used for acquire next image... these should be similar between Xorg and wayland so I'm not picky.
16:25 cheako: It's not likely to be anything in the kernel either, but yes that is also part of the call chain.
16:34 Venemo: either way, this is good progress, thank you cheako
16:51 Venemo: cheako: have you tried the driconf option to override the minimum image count?